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= Issues = | = Issues = | ||
* '''<span style="color: #006633">Now</span>''': issues regarding parts that are already implemented | |||
* '''<span style="color: #008866">Soon</span>''': issues regarding parts that we intend to implement soon | |||
* '''<span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span>''': issues regarding parts that we intend to postpone (may change substantially and/or not be implemented at all) | |||
== CSS and Rendering == | == CSS and Rendering == | ||
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* [http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Component_Model_CSS_Brainstorming CSS brainstorming page]: brainstorming on alternative solutions to styling | * [http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Component_Model_CSS_Brainstorming CSS brainstorming page]: brainstorming on alternative solutions to styling | ||
=== <span style="color: #006633">Now</span> === | |||
* Do components create a layer? | * Do components create a layer? | ||
** <span style="color: blue">assumption: no</span> | ** <span style="color: blue">assumption: no</span> | ||
::[[User:Dglazkov|Dglazkov]]: isn't this an implementation detail? | ::[[User:Dglazkov|Dglazkov]]: isn't this an implementation detail? | ||
=== <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | |||
* styling of rendering children of <content> (partially discussed in the [http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Component_Model_CSS_Brainstorming CSS brainstorming page]). | |||
=== <span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span> === | |||
* tab-index behavior | * tab-index behavior | ||
* z-order behavior | * z-order behavior | ||
== Shadow Nodes == | == Shadow Nodes == | ||
=== <span style="color: #006633">Now</span> === | |||
* shadow root being a separate node type vs. an element vs. document fragment vs. ??? (see [http://wiki.whatwg.org/index.php?title=Component_Model_Discussion:_Rendering rendering sub-page]) | * shadow root being a separate node type vs. an element vs. document fragment vs. ??? (see [http://wiki.whatwg.org/index.php?title=Component_Model_Discussion:_Rendering rendering sub-page]) | ||
** <span style="color: purple">current state: separate node type</span> | ** <span style="color: purple">current state: separate node type</span> | ||
* Can the same host element child be rendered under multiple <content> elements that all select it? | |||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no - the first to select it "gets" it. <content> without <code>select</code> is always last in this regard</span> | |||
* Is <content> is a bona-fide HTML element (vs. a DOM subtype)? | |||
** <span style="color: blue">assumption: HTML element</span> | |||
=== <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | |||
* Does ShadowRoot have innerHTML? | * Does ShadowRoot have innerHTML? | ||
** <span style="color: blue">assumption: yes</span> | ** <span style="color: blue">assumption: yes</span> | ||
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** <span style="color:blue">suggestion: space-separated list of selector sequences: [tag]?[class]*[id]*[attr]*[pseudo-class]* (NO pseudo-elements)</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">suggestion: space-separated list of selector sequences: [tag]?[class]*[id]*[attr]*[pseudo-class]* (NO pseudo-elements)</span> | ||
::[[User:Dglazkov|Dglazkov]]: will space-separation be confusing? I like the idea, but just thought I should raise this as a concern. | ::[[User:Dglazkov|Dglazkov]]: will space-separation be confusing? I like the idea, but just thought I should raise this as a concern. | ||
:::[[User:Rolandsteiner|Rolandsteiner]]: I thought a space-separated list follows HTML conventions more closely, but perhaps to draw an analogue to CSS (and to allow potential later extensions), a comma-separated list may be better (?). | |||
== Events == | == Events == | ||
=== <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | |||
* focus event traversing out of shadow? | * focus event traversing out of shadow? | ||
** <span style="color: blue">assumption: yes, redirected</span> | ** <span style="color: blue">assumption: yes, redirected</span> | ||
** <span style="color: purple">current state: not implemented</span> | ** <span style="color: purple">current state: not implemented</span> | ||
=== <span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span> === | |||
* instantiation events (which events & when?) | * instantiation events (which events & when?) | ||
** for <template> instantiations | ** for <template> instantiations | ||
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== Loading and Life Cycle == | == Loading and Life Cycle == | ||
=== <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | |||
* loading mechanism (syntax) | * loading mechanism (syntax) | ||
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* is it possible to rename a component? e.g., to avoid name clashes? | * is it possible to rename a component? e.g., to avoid name clashes? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ||
* define all edge cases and “unhappy” cases. Examples: constructor throws exception (general case), constructor throws exception during parsing | |||
=== <span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span> === | |||
* is it possible to have a scoped (private) names, e.g., for private components? | * is it possible to have a scoped (private) names, e.g., for private components? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ||
* Is it possible to undefine a component? (if yes, how?) | * Is it possible to undefine a component? (if yes, how?) | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ||
== Registration == | == Registration == | ||
=== <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | |||
* how to handle name clashes between components? | * how to handle name clashes between components? | ||
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* Are shadow trees dynamic or static? | * Are shadow trees dynamic or static? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: static, but see discussion in public-webapps@ ML</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: static, but see discussion in public-webapps@ ML</span> | ||
=== <span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span> === | |||
* accessibility (implicit, e.g. with <button is=mywidget>, explicit, e.g., with ARIA roles) | * accessibility (implicit, e.g. with <button is=mywidget>, explicit, e.g., with ARIA roles) | ||
== Derivation == | == Derivation == | ||
=== <span style="color: #006633">Now</span> === | |||
* should we do XBL-like inheritance? | * should we do XBL-like inheritance? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ||
=== <span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span> === | |||
* “aspect-oriented" components (components defining the parts they use, derived components can override or re-use specific parts, part names automatically become pseudos) | * “aspect-oriented" components (components defining the parts they use, derived components can override or re-use specific parts, part names automatically become pseudos) | ||
* composition vs. inheritance (i.e., do we need inheritance at all, or can composition handle all use cases?) | * composition vs. inheritance (i.e., do we need inheritance at all, or can composition handle all use cases?) | ||
** <span style="color:blue">temporary assumption: composition only</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">temporary assumption: composition only</span> | ||
== JavaScript == | == JavaScript == | ||
=== | === <span style="color: #006633">Now</span> === | ||
* Can one subtype anything (text/attribute nodes, events, ...), or just HTMLElement? | * Can one subtype anything (text/attribute nodes, events, ...), or just HTMLElement? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: just HTML element</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: just HTML element</span> | ||
* details of construction | * details of construction | ||
=== | === <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | ||
* can one write a constructor with <supertype>.call(...), or does one have to use createElement? | |||
* Isolation/Confinement JS implementation details | |||
* Forwarding JS implementation details (ex: sub-classing <textarea> (Maciej’s examples), auto-completion, omni-bar like drop-down, toolbar) | |||
* how to handle Element.register being overwritten? | * how to handle Element.register being overwritten? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: don't care</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: don't care</span> | ||
* how to handle, e.g., appendChild being overwritten on a component? | * how to handle, e.g., appendChild being overwritten on a component? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: don't care</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: don't care</span> | ||
== Isolation and Confinement == | == Isolation and Confinement == | ||
(see also the [http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Component_Model_Isolation_Brainstorming isolation brainstorming page]) | (see also the [http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Component_Model_Isolation_Brainstorming isolation brainstorming page]) | ||
=== <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | |||
* To what degree is isolation/confinement really necessary? (scripts? DOM access? CSS properties?) | * To what degree is isolation/confinement really necessary? (scripts? DOM access? CSS properties?) | ||
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* Can we substitute isolation with <iframe>s? | * Can we substitute isolation with <iframe>s? | ||
* Are instances of the same component isolated from each other? | * Are instances of the same component isolated from each other? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: yes, but they should be able to set up shared data structures</span> | |||
* Are instances of the components from the same domain isolated from each other? | * Are instances of the components from the same domain isolated from each other? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: yes, but they should be able to set up shared data structures</span> | |||
* Can instances of the same component share data somehow? | * Can instances of the same component share data somehow? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: yes (how?)</span> | |||
* Can instances of the same component and its derivatives share data somehow? | * Can instances of the same component and its derivatives share data somehow? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: yes (how?)</span> | |||
* Can instances of the components from the same domain share data somehow? | * Can instances of the components from the same domain share data somehow? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: yes (how?)</span> | |||
* Can isolated components position content outside the host boundary rect? (if not, problems with, e.g., +1 widget) | * Can isolated components position content outside the host boundary rect? (if not, problems with, e.g., +1 widget) | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: yes</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: yes</span> | ||
== Declarative syntax == | == Declarative syntax == | ||
=== <span style="color: #008866">Soon</span> === | |||
* how/when to run scripts? | * how/when to run scripts? | ||
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** instantiable without explicit components (e.g., <instance select=”x-cyberdyne-terminator”>) | ** instantiable without explicit components (e.g., <instance select=”x-cyberdyne-terminator”>) | ||
** event handler registration syntax | ** event handler registration syntax | ||
* <element> details | * <element> details | ||
* Do we need <binding> as well? | * Do we need <binding> as well? | ||
* How to define the API of components | * How to define the API of components | ||
=== <span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span> === | |||
* <template>: introduce template types (e.g., <template type=”django”>)? | |||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | |||
== Misc. == | == Misc. == | ||
=== <span style="color: #006633">Now</span> === | |||
* How can we split the spec into (more) different parts? | |||
=== <span style="color: #00AA88">Later</span> === | |||
* Do we define the shadow DOM (or parts thereof) of built-in elements? | * Do we define the shadow DOM (or parts thereof) of built-in elements? | ||
** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ** <span style="color:blue">assumption: no</span> | ||
Revision as of 05:42, 11 October 2011
Overview
This document attempts to exhaustively list issues that we feel are unanswered or ambiguous.
Linked pages:
- rendering sub-page: discussions on rendering details
- CSS brainstorming page: alternative solutions to styling
- isolation brainstorming page: general thoughts on isolation & confinement
Issues
- Now: issues regarding parts that are already implemented
- Soon: issues regarding parts that we intend to implement soon
- Later: issues regarding parts that we intend to postpone (may change substantially and/or not be implemented at all)
CSS and Rendering
- rendering sub-page: discussions on rendering details
- CSS brainstorming page: brainstorming on alternative solutions to styling
Now
- Do components create a layer?
- assumption: no
- Dglazkov: isn't this an implementation detail?
Soon
- styling of rendering children of <content> (partially discussed in the CSS brainstorming page).
Later
- tab-index behavior
- z-order behavior
Shadow Nodes
Now
- shadow root being a separate node type vs. an element vs. document fragment vs. ??? (see rendering sub-page)
- current state: separate node type
- Can the same host element child be rendered under multiple <content> elements that all select it?
- assumption: no - the first to select it "gets" it. <content> without
select
is always last in this regard
- assumption: no - the first to select it "gets" it. <content> without
- Is <content> is a bona-fide HTML element (vs. a DOM subtype)?
- assumption: HTML element
Soon
- Does ShadowRoot have innerHTML?
- assumption: yes
- details of <content> selector syntax
- suggestion: space-separated list of selector sequences: [tag]?[class]*[id]*[attr]*[pseudo-class]* (NO pseudo-elements)
- Dglazkov: will space-separation be confusing? I like the idea, but just thought I should raise this as a concern.
- Rolandsteiner: I thought a space-separated list follows HTML conventions more closely, but perhaps to draw an analogue to CSS (and to allow potential later extensions), a comma-separated list may be better (?).
- Dglazkov: will space-separation be confusing? I like the idea, but just thought I should raise this as a concern.
Events
Soon
- focus event traversing out of shadow?
- assumption: yes, redirected
- current state: not implemented
Later
- instantiation events (which events & when?)
- for <template> instantiations
- for component instances
- on rebinding? (provided CSS 'binding' is possible)
- event on component registration?
Loading and Life Cycle
Soon
- loading mechanism (syntax)
- How to handle definition after use
- assumption: don't do anything
- packaging
- is it possible to rename a component? e.g., to avoid name clashes?
- assumption: no
- define all edge cases and “unhappy” cases. Examples: constructor throws exception (general case), constructor throws exception during parsing
Later
- is it possible to have a scoped (private) names, e.g., for private components?
- assumption: no
- Is it possible to undefine a component? (if yes, how?)
- assumption: no
Registration
Soon
- how to handle name clashes between components?
- assumption: teach authors to add unique prefix, e.g., <x-cyberdyne-terminator>
- details on attaching a shadow tree?
- <x-mywidget>
- Pros: flexible, tag is inherently static, most performant
- Cons: accessibility, fall-back
- <div becomes=mywidget> even more problematic in these regards and also requires duplication of style rules (?)
- <button is=mywidget>
- Pros: accessibility of base element, natural fallback
- Cons: not a priori obvious that 'is' cannot be rebound, limited to existing element names
- CSS binding: button { binding: mywidget; }
- Pros: accessibility and fallback, most flexible
- Cons: implementation is hard, multiple (perhaps mutually exclusive) bindings may apply, cannot extend the API
- other?
- <x-mywidget>
- Dglazkov: Hixie suggested a mix of decorator and element, where the API is bound using magic attribute and shadow tree + events are bound using css binding.
- fallback mechanisms (implicit with <button is=mywidget>, explicit, e.g., with fallback content as children)
- Are shadow trees dynamic or static?
- assumption: static, but see discussion in public-webapps@ ML
Later
- accessibility (implicit, e.g. with <button is=mywidget>, explicit, e.g., with ARIA roles)
Derivation
Now
- should we do XBL-like inheritance?
- assumption: no
Later
- “aspect-oriented" components (components defining the parts they use, derived components can override or re-use specific parts, part names automatically become pseudos)
- composition vs. inheritance (i.e., do we need inheritance at all, or can composition handle all use cases?)
- temporary assumption: composition only
JavaScript
Now
- Can one subtype anything (text/attribute nodes, events, ...), or just HTMLElement?
- assumption: just HTML element
- details of construction
Soon
- can one write a constructor with <supertype>.call(...), or does one have to use createElement?
- Isolation/Confinement JS implementation details
- Forwarding JS implementation details (ex: sub-classing <textarea> (Maciej’s examples), auto-completion, omni-bar like drop-down, toolbar)
- how to handle Element.register being overwritten?
- assumption: don't care
- how to handle, e.g., appendChild being overwritten on a component?
- assumption: don't care
Isolation and Confinement
(see also the isolation brainstorming page)
Soon
- To what degree is isolation/confinement really necessary? (scripts? DOM access? CSS properties?)
- How far is isolation/confinement handling for components similar to <iframe>?
- Can we substitute isolation with <iframe>s?
- Are instances of the same component isolated from each other?
- assumption: yes, but they should be able to set up shared data structures
- Are instances of the components from the same domain isolated from each other?
- assumption: yes, but they should be able to set up shared data structures
- Can instances of the same component share data somehow?
- assumption: yes (how?)
- Can instances of the same component and its derivatives share data somehow?
- assumption: yes (how?)
- Can instances of the components from the same domain share data somehow?
- assumption: yes (how?)
- Can isolated components position content outside the host boundary rect? (if not, problems with, e.g., +1 widget)
- assumption: yes
Declarative syntax
Soon
- how/when to run scripts?
- syntax to style the host (provided we select a model where it is rendered)?
- <template> details:
- usable without components?
- instantiable without explicit components (e.g., <instance select=”x-cyberdyne-terminator”>)
- event handler registration syntax
- <element> details
- Do we need <binding> as well?
- How to define the API of components
Later
- <template>: introduce template types (e.g., <template type=”django”>)?
- assumption: no
Misc.
Now
- How can we split the spec into (more) different parts?
Later
- Do we define the shadow DOM (or parts thereof) of built-in elements?
- assumption: no