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This page summarises the ''problems'' discussed in the e-mails that ended up in the [http://www.whatwg.org/issues/#html-parsing-rules-namespaces-discussion html-parsing-rules-namespaces-discussion] folder.
This page summarises the ''problems'' discussed in the e-mails that ended up in the [http://www.whatwg.org/issues/#html-parsing-rules-namespaces-discussion html-parsing-rules-namespaces-discussion] folder.


* Putting an equation in a Web page
== Specified ==
Priorities:
 
** Maintainability
* '''Writing applications that contain graphics that represent custom data, while including that data for script manipulation.'''<br>Proposal: <code>data-<var>foo</var>=""</code> on any element; <code>element.dataset[<var>foo</var>]</code> for DOM access. ([[CustomData|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Searchability
** Embedding custom non-visible data in an HTML document for scripting purposes ✓‬
** Accessibility
** Forward compatible (so that future extensions don't introduce name clashes) ✓‬
** Typographically-sound printing
** Ability to avoid ID clashes in multiple-document transclusion ✘
 
* '''Ability for an author to unilaterally extend the language to address problems we are currently unaware of and that therefore are not covered by existing functionality.'''<br>Proposal: <code>div</code> and <code>span</code> elements, <code>class</code> and <code>data-<var>foo</var>=""</code> on any element, along with JS, CSS, and, eventually, XBL2 ([[Extensions|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Without trampling on the toes of others ✓‬
** Without being beholden to an external entity to provide the enhancements for the author on a timescale that is useful to the author ✓‬
 
See: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#embedding
 
* '''Putting an equation in a Web page.'''<br>Proposal: make &lt;math> enter [[New Vocabularies Solution|a new insertion mode]] in which non-HTML elements end up in the MathML namespace ([[Equations in HTML|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Maintainability ✘‬ ''(MathML is too verbose to solve this; making the syntax less verbose makes it even more complicated)''
** Searchability
** Accessibility
** Typographically-sound printing
** Ease of authoring (are authors willing to learn new formats?) ✓✘ ''(Ok for MathML authors; not for LaTeX authors.)''
** Ease of import from existing documents ✓✘ ''(Ok for MathML source documents, not for LaTeX source documents.)''
** Ease of implementation (are UAs willing to implement new formats?) ✓✘ ''(Ok for Mozilla, but not for other vendors.)''
** Resistance to errors (e.g. not brittle in the face of syntax errors) ✓
** Numbering the equation ✓ ''(Using, e.g. the <code>title</code> attribute and CSS.)''
 
* '''Writing a document by hand, with inline diagrams imported from a graphics package.'''<br>Proposal: make &lt;svg> enter [[New Vocabularies Solution|a new insertion mode]] in which non-HTML elements end up in the SVG namespace  ([[Diagrams in HTML|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Compatibility with existing graphics packages ✓✘ ''(if they support SVG export)''
** Scriptable (retained-mode, with DOM support, without requiring cross-frame scripting) ✓
** Round-tripping (the ability to take image fragments from a Web page and edit them) ✓✘ ''(Somewhat, if authors are careful; tool support would make this possible easily.)''
** Ease of implementation (are UAs willing to implement new formats?) ✓
** Resistance to errors (e.g. not brittle in the face of syntax errors) ✓
 
* '''Writing a document by hand, with vector graphic icons.'''<br>Proposal: <code>img</code> elements with external SVG ([[Vector Icons|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Maintainability ✓
** Good caching behaviour ✓
 
* '''Mixing vector graphics, mathematics, and other features.'''<br>Proposal: MathML, SVG, and HTML ([[Mixed namespaces|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Diagrams that include typographically-correct mathematics ✓
** Formulae that include vector graphics ✓
** Formulae and diagrams that contain form controls ✓
 
* '''Writing highly interactive, graphically intensive sites.'''<br>Proposal: SVG, SVG's SMIL, and scripting ([[Interactive Sites|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Searchability ✓
** Accessibility ✓
 
== Rejected requirements ==
 
* '''Animating Web page content (hypertext, vector graphics).'''<br>Proposal: Use the CSS animation proposal ([[Animation in HTML|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Set or animate sizes, positions, opacities, colors, transforms (basically most attributes and properties) ✓
** Time-based triggering ✓ ''(using script to trigger changes)''
** Event-based triggering ✓ ''(using script to trigger changes)''
** Inlined (for simple web pages) and non-inlined animations (to promote separation of content and presentation) ✓
** Linear and spline interpolation ''(up to the CSS animation proposal's definition)''
** Syndication: animation shouldn't use scripts that can't be trusted by syndicators ✓✘ ''(Somewhat.)''
** Quality: animation should adapt to the frame rate capabilities of the device, not be forced to use a particular frame rate by a script ✓
 
* '''Migrating from LaTeX to HTML.'''<br>Proposal: a tool? ([[LaTeX to HTML|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Fidelity ✓ ''(Depends mostly on the tool, assuming CSS, SVG, and MathML support everything LaTeX does.)''
 
* '''Including XBL2 inline in a text/html document the same way CSS and JS can be included inline.'''<br>Proposal: ? ([[XBL2 in HTML|Other ideas...]])<br>Priorities:
** Expressiveness (anything expressed in XBL2 as text/xml should be possible in text/html) ✘ ''(Could be revisited later.)''
 
==Areas for research==
 
* What is the most widely known way of authoring mathematics?
* What human-editable source language are equations mostly serialised in today?
 
==Supporting data==
* Animation is a desired capability for web authors of Rich Internet Applications.  Of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_framework#JavaScript top Ajax Javascript toolkits] listed on Wikipedia, all support some level of animation, each in a different, and possibly incompatible, way:
** [http://bdn.backbase.com/docs/client_4_1_2/Reference_files/index.html#bb_smil_281732121.html Backbase]
** [http://redesign.dojotoolkit.org/jsdoc/dojo/HEAD/dojo.animateProperty dojo]
** [http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/docs/output/Ext.Element.html ext]
** [http://docs.jquery.com/Effects jQuery]
** [http://docs.mootools.net/out/files/Effects/Fx-Styles-js.html Mootools]
** [http://prototypejs.org/api/periodicalExecuter prototype] (weak)
** [http://wiki.script.aculo.us/scriptaculous/show/VisualEffects script.aculo.us]
** [http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/animation/ YUI]
 
[[Category:Proposals]]

Latest revision as of 12:12, 26 January 2011

This page summarises the problems discussed in the e-mails that ended up in the html-parsing-rules-namespaces-discussion folder.

Specified

  • Writing applications that contain graphics that represent custom data, while including that data for script manipulation.
    Proposal: data-foo="" on any element; element.dataset[foo] for DOM access. (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Embedding custom non-visible data in an HTML document for scripting purposes ✓‬
    • Forward compatible (so that future extensions don't introduce name clashes) ✓‬
    • Ability to avoid ID clashes in multiple-document transclusion ✘
  • Ability for an author to unilaterally extend the language to address problems we are currently unaware of and that therefore are not covered by existing functionality.
    Proposal: div and span elements, class and data-foo="" on any element, along with JS, CSS, and, eventually, XBL2 (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Without trampling on the toes of others ✓‬
    • Without being beholden to an external entity to provide the enhancements for the author on a timescale that is useful to the author ✓‬

See: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#embedding

  • Putting an equation in a Web page.
    Proposal: make <math> enter a new insertion mode in which non-HTML elements end up in the MathML namespace (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Maintainability ✘‬ (MathML is too verbose to solve this; making the syntax less verbose makes it even more complicated)
    • Searchability ✓
    • Accessibility ✓
    • Typographically-sound printing ✓
    • Ease of authoring (are authors willing to learn new formats?) ✓✘ (Ok for MathML authors; not for LaTeX authors.)
    • Ease of import from existing documents ✓✘ (Ok for MathML source documents, not for LaTeX source documents.)
    • Ease of implementation (are UAs willing to implement new formats?) ✓✘ (Ok for Mozilla, but not for other vendors.)
    • Resistance to errors (e.g. not brittle in the face of syntax errors) ✓
    • Numbering the equation ✓ (Using, e.g. the title attribute and CSS.)
  • Writing a document by hand, with inline diagrams imported from a graphics package.
    Proposal: make <svg> enter a new insertion mode in which non-HTML elements end up in the SVG namespace (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Compatibility with existing graphics packages ✓✘ (if they support SVG export)
    • Scriptable (retained-mode, with DOM support, without requiring cross-frame scripting) ✓
    • Round-tripping (the ability to take image fragments from a Web page and edit them) ✓✘ (Somewhat, if authors are careful; tool support would make this possible easily.)
    • Ease of implementation (are UAs willing to implement new formats?) ✓
    • Resistance to errors (e.g. not brittle in the face of syntax errors) ✓
  • Writing a document by hand, with vector graphic icons.
    Proposal: img elements with external SVG (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Maintainability ✓
    • Good caching behaviour ✓
  • Mixing vector graphics, mathematics, and other features.
    Proposal: MathML, SVG, and HTML (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Diagrams that include typographically-correct mathematics ✓
    • Formulae that include vector graphics ✓
    • Formulae and diagrams that contain form controls ✓
  • Writing highly interactive, graphically intensive sites.
    Proposal: SVG, SVG's SMIL, and scripting (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Searchability ✓
    • Accessibility ✓

Rejected requirements

  • Animating Web page content (hypertext, vector graphics).
    Proposal: Use the CSS animation proposal (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Set or animate sizes, positions, opacities, colors, transforms (basically most attributes and properties) ✓
    • Time-based triggering ✓ (using script to trigger changes)
    • Event-based triggering ✓ (using script to trigger changes)
    • Inlined (for simple web pages) and non-inlined animations (to promote separation of content and presentation) ✓
    • Linear and spline interpolation (up to the CSS animation proposal's definition)
    • Syndication: animation shouldn't use scripts that can't be trusted by syndicators ✓✘ (Somewhat.)
    • Quality: animation should adapt to the frame rate capabilities of the device, not be forced to use a particular frame rate by a script ✓
  • Migrating from LaTeX to HTML.
    Proposal: a tool? (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Fidelity ✓ (Depends mostly on the tool, assuming CSS, SVG, and MathML support everything LaTeX does.)
  • Including XBL2 inline in a text/html document the same way CSS and JS can be included inline.
    Proposal: ? (Other ideas...)
    Priorities:
    • Expressiveness (anything expressed in XBL2 as text/xml should be possible in text/html) ✘ (Could be revisited later.)

Areas for research

  • What is the most widely known way of authoring mathematics?
  • What human-editable source language are equations mostly serialised in today?

Supporting data