Talk:Differences from HTML4 - Revision history

Annevk: Talk:Changes from HTML4 moved to Talk:Differences from HTML4: normal page moved too

2007-06-07T17:37:59Z

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Jarvklo: More on egarding things significantly changed (Transitional/Strict issue continued)

2007-04-14T12:27:50Z

More on egarding things significantly changed (Transitional/Strict issue continued)

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	::: Every element has a different content model because of the new elements. I think we want to note stuff that has significantly changed. Feel free to make additions though. That's what wiki's are for. [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 17:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)		::: Every element has a different content model because of the new elements. I think we want to note stuff that has significantly changed. Feel free to make additions though. That's what wiki's are for. [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 17:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

			:::: Thanks, I will gladly do that when I manage to figure out the WHATWG grounds for considering something "siginficantly changed against HTML4 in general" ;)
			:::: I'll try to elaborate a bit more why I persist the issue:
			:::: The HTML5 body element, for example, could be considered both "significantly changed" (i.e. when compared to "4 Transitional" where it can contain "Flow" - i.e. a mix of Block and Inline) and "not significantly changed" (i.e. when compared to "4 Strict" where it contains basically the same "Block level content" as is defined for HTML5 albeit defined a little differently). It just isn't possible - in my very humble opinion - to state unambigously whether body has "changed significantly" from "HTML4 in general" or not.
			:::: IMHO stating either Transitional or Strict as the baseline wouldn't hurt. For me personally anything coming from anywhere than "Strict" is a significant change since I have avoided Transitional whenever possible for years.
			:::: No big deal though. I'll just wait and see what happens here. [[User:Jarvklo\|Jarvklo]] 12:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

	== Things to possibly add: ==		== Things to possibly add: ==

Annevk: reply on the html4 trans / frame stuff

2007-04-13T17:50:28Z

reply on the html4 trans / frame stuff

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	* Shouldn't we mention explicitly somewhere that changes are in reference to HTML 4.01 '''Strict''' ?		== in reference to ... ==

			Shouldn't we mention explicitly somewhere that changes are in reference to HTML 4.01 '''Strict''' ?

	: Changes are in reference to HTML4 in general. Including the Transitional and Frameset "versions". [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 11:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)		: Changes are in reference to HTML4 in general. Including the Transitional and Frameset "versions". [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 11:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
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	:: Consider "body" and "form" for example - are they "changed elements" since they has a different content model in "4 Transitional" and "4 Frameset" as compared to "4 Strict" and "5" or not? I can easilly imagine different people interpreting the baseline used here very differently depending on where in the "4" world they come from :) [[User:Jarvklo\|Jarvklo]] 14:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)		:: Consider "body" and "form" for example - are they "changed elements" since they has a different content model in "4 Transitional" and "4 Frameset" as compared to "4 Strict" and "5" or not? I can easilly imagine different people interpreting the baseline used here very differently depending on where in the "4" world they come from :) [[User:Jarvklo\|Jarvklo]] 14:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

	Things to possibly add:		::: Every element has a different content model because of the new elements. I think we want to note stuff that has significantly changed. Feel free to make additions though. That's what wiki's are for. [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 17:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

			== Things to possibly add: ==

	* The changes in the content model of several elements (eg. div and li) that has changed to use "zero or more block-level elements, or inline-level content (but not both)"		* The changes in the content model of several elements (eg. div and li) that has changed to use "zero or more block-level elements, or inline-level content (but not both)"

Jarvklo at 14:10, 12 April 2007

2007-04-12T14:10:24Z

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	: Changes are in reference to HTML4 in general. Including the Transitional and Frameset "versions". [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 11:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)		: Changes are in reference to HTML4 in general. Including the Transitional and Frameset "versions". [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 11:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

			:: OK. I suspected as much. :) Let me exemplify why I raised the question and think it needs to be clarified if this page is intended to be used as a reference index for people migrating between "4" and "5":
			:: Consider "body" and "form" for example - are they "changed elements" since they has a different content model in "4 Transitional" and "4 Frameset" as compared to "4 Strict" and "5" or not? I can easilly imagine different people interpreting the baseline used here very differently depending on where in the "4" world they come from :) [[User:Jarvklo\|Jarvklo]] 14:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

	Things to possibly add:		Things to possibly add:

Annevk: changes are against HTML4 including Transitional and Frameset

2007-04-12T11:54:58Z

changes are against HTML4 including Transitional and Frameset

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	* Shouldn't we mention explicitly somewhere that changes are in reference to HTML 4.01 '''Strict''' ?		* Shouldn't we mention explicitly somewhere that changes are in reference to HTML 4.01 '''Strict''' ?

			: Changes are in reference to HTML4 in general. Including the Transitional and Frameset "versions". [[User:Annevk\|Annevk]] 11:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

	Things to possibly add:		Things to possibly add:

Jarvklo at 11:06, 12 April 2007

2007-04-12T11:06:54Z

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			* Shouldn't we mention explicitly somewhere that changes are in reference to HTML 4.01 '''Strict''' ?

	Things to possibly add:		Things to possibly add:

			* The changes in the content model of several elements (eg. div and li) that has changed to use "zero or more block-level elements, or inline-level content (but not both)"

			* The content model changes for table (and it's children)

	* new <input> types		* new <input> types

Mjs: New page: Things to possibly add: * new types * Miscellaneous new HTMLDocument APIs: getElementsByClassName activeElement ** hasFocus * Miscellaneous new HTMLElement APIs: ** getE...

2007-04-10T07:07:10Z

New page: Things to possibly add: * new <input> types * Miscellaneous new HTMLDocument APIs: ** getElementsByClassName ** activeElement ** hasFocus * Miscellaneous new HTMLElement APIs: ** getE...

New page

Things to possibly add:

* new <input> types

* Miscellaneous new HTMLDocument APIs:

** getElementsByClassName
** activeElement
** hasFocus

* Miscellaneous new HTMLElement APIs:

** getElementsByClassName
** innerHTML
** classList
** click / blur / focus made global

* Predefined class names
* Predefined link types

* Miscellaneous new APIs on specific elements (only ones that aren't tied directly to new attributes and aren't already listed)

** relList on HTMLLinkElement, HTMLAElement

* Auto-linking to term definitions
* Sectioning
* Scoped styles