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Sicking: /* new datetime input discussion */

2014-03-05T19:54:56Z

new datetime input discussion

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	** +0 [http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-August/027828.html Aryeh Gregor on whatwg list] - "I agree, this is a valid reason to want a year input. I can't say whether it's good enough to add it to the spec, given how many input types we have already and how little implementation has been done so far, but it's a legitimate argument."		** +0 [http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-August/027828.html Aryeh Gregor on whatwg list] - "I agree, this is a valid reason to want a year input. I can't say whether it's good enough to add it to the spec, given how many input types we have already and how little implementation has been done so far, but it's a legitimate argument."
	** +1 [http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-August/027829.html Jonathan Castello on whatwg list] - "That's probably the most convincing point for adding a "year" type I've heard so far. I'd agree with a "year" type just based on that."		** +1 [http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-August/027829.html Jonathan Castello on whatwg list] - "That's probably the most convincing point for adding a "year" type I've heard so far. I'd agree with a "year" type just based on that."
			* +1 Sicking - The extra implementation cost is pretty low, and the uses are common enough. It's also tricky to work around the lack of day+month input since you can't leverage the existing controls, but rather have to start from scratch. However I think we should use the string "day-month" rather than "month-day" since most of the world, including most of the world that uses the english words "day" and "month", puts day before month. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country]
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Annevk: categorize

2011-01-26T12:20:00Z

categorize

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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	* [[time]] - the time element, related proposals.		* [[time]] - the time element, related proposals.

			[[Category:Proposals]]

Tantek: /* new datetime input discussion */ add recent emails supporting input type=year

2010-08-11T01:04:13Z

new datetime input discussion: add recent emails supporting input type=year

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	* +1 [[Tantek]] - any implementer that is going to the trouble of properly implementing the existing 6 new date time inputs will find it fairly easy to implement two additional variants, and this more complete model of date and time inputs will be easier to remember for web authors (fewer exceptions to remember).		* +1 [[Tantek]] - any implementer that is going to the trouble of properly implementing the existing 6 new date time inputs will find it fairly easy to implement two additional variants, and this more complete model of date and time inputs will be easier to remember for web authors (fewer exceptions to remember).
	* +1 [[User:Pigsonthewing\|Andy Mabbett]] - Per the above, and examples/ use cases on [[time element]].		* +1 [[User:Pigsonthewing\|Andy Mabbett]] - Per the above, and examples/ use cases on [[time element]].
			* +1 [http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-August/027826.html Ryosuke Niwa on whatwg list] - "... to implement that, we need to know that certain text field is accepting "year", not a 4-digit number."
			** +0 [http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-August/027828.html Aryeh Gregor on whatwg list] - "I agree, this is a valid reason to want a year input. I can't say whether it's good enough to add it to the spec, given how many input types we have already and how little implementation has been done so far, but it's a legitimate argument."
			** +1 [http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-August/027829.html Jonathan Castello on whatwg list] - "That's probably the most convincing point for adding a "year" type I've heard so far. I'd agree with a "year" type just based on that."
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Pigsonthewing: /* new datetime input use-cases */ fmt

2010-08-09T10:46:56Z

new datetime input use-cases: fmt

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	** searching an "on this day in history" archive e.g. [http://www.scopesys.com/anyday/]		** searching an "on this day in history" archive e.g. [http://www.scopesys.com/anyday/]
	* Non-Gregorian/ BC dates		* Non-Gregorian/ BC dates
	** The [http://collections.vam.ac.uk/ Victoria & Albert Museum's collections search] uses a drop-down menu to select BC/AD on the		** The [http://collections.vam.ac.uk/ Victoria & Albert Museum's collections search] uses a drop-down menu to select BC/AD on the date fields
	date fields

	Additional use-cases for each of these new inputs are documented in proposals for allowing the respective levels of granularity/floating date/time support in the [[time element]].		Additional use-cases for each of these new inputs are documented in proposals for allowing the respective levels of granularity/floating date/time support in the [[time element]].

Pigsonthewing: /* new datetime input use-cases */ a URL would help...

2010-08-09T10:19:22Z

new datetime input use-cases: a URL would help...

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	** searching an "on this day in history" archive e.g. [http://www.scopesys.com/anyday/]		** searching an "on this day in history" archive e.g. [http://www.scopesys.com/anyday/]
	* Non-Gregorian/ BC dates		* Non-Gregorian/ BC dates
	** The [Victoria & Albert Museum's collections search] uses a drop-down menu to select BC/AD on the		** The [http://collections.vam.ac.uk/ Victoria & Albert Museum's collections search] uses a drop-down menu to select BC/AD on the
	date fields		date fields

Pigsonthewing: /* new datetime input use-cases */ V&A example of BC dates

2010-08-09T10:16:28Z

new datetime input use-cases: V&A example of BC dates

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	** entering custom annual holidays		** entering custom annual holidays
	** searching an "on this day in history" archive e.g. [http://www.scopesys.com/anyday/]		** searching an "on this day in history" archive e.g. [http://www.scopesys.com/anyday/]
			* Non-Gregorian/ BC dates
			** The [Victoria & Albert Museum's collections search] uses a drop-down menu to select BC/AD on the
			date fields

	Additional use-cases for each of these new inputs are documented in proposals for allowing the respective levels of granularity/floating date/time support in the [[time element]].		Additional use-cases for each of these new inputs are documented in proposals for allowing the respective levels of granularity/floating date/time support in the [[time element]].

Pigsonthewing: /* how is a year different than a four digit number */ ce

2010-08-09T02:23:49Z

how is a year different than a four digit number: ce

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	* This semantic gives robots the opportunity to understand that a form takes time based information rather than just a number (if for example robots perform time based form submissions/searches on our behalf at some point)		* This semantic gives robots the opportunity to understand that a form takes time based information rather than just a number (if for example robots perform time based form submissions/searches on our behalf at some point)
	* Years can also be more of fewer than four digits. Julius Caesar was born in 100 BC, for instance, while Manius Acilius Glabrio was consul in 91 AD.		* Years can also be more of fewer than four digits. Julius Caesar was born in 100 BC, for instance, while Manius Acilius Glabrio was consul in 91 AD.
	** Sites requiring BC and/ or 1/2/3 ~~figure~~ year entry: [http://www.mayabelize.ca/maya/maya-long-count-generator.shtml], [http://www.smart.net/~mmontes/ec-cal.html], [http://www.guernsey.net/~sgibbs/roman.html]		** Sites requiring BC and/ or 1/2/3- digit year entry: [http://www.mayabelize.ca/maya/maya-long-count-generator.shtml], [http://www.smart.net/~mmontes/ec-cal.html], [http://www.guernsey.net/~sgibbs/roman.html]

	==== how does year provide additional validation ====		==== how does year provide additional validation ====

Pigsonthewing: /* new datetime input use-cases */ more examples

2010-08-09T02:01:26Z

new datetime input use-cases: more examples

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	** pull-down for Wikipedia which lets you choose the year or period		** pull-down for Wikipedia which lets you choose the year or period
	** a charting application which looks at trends in history		** a charting application which looks at trends in history
			** e-commerce: buying, say, automobile or building insurance and specifying the year of manufacture/ construction
	* month-day - see [[Time_element#month_day_only\|time element month day only use cases]]		* month-day - see [[Time_element#month_day_only\|time element month day only use cases]]
	** inputting a birthday without birth year		** inputting a birthday without birth year
	** entering custom annual holidays		** entering custom annual holidays
			** searching an "on this day in history" archive e.g. [http://www.scopesys.com/anyday/]

	Additional use-cases for each of these new inputs are documented in proposals for allowing the respective levels of granularity/floating date/time support in the [[time element]].		Additional use-cases for each of these new inputs are documented in proposals for allowing the respective levels of granularity/floating date/time support in the [[time element]].

Pigsonthewing: /* how is a year different than a four digit number */ example sites for BC & 1/2/3 digit year entry

2010-08-09T01:47:00Z

how is a year different than a four digit number: example sites for BC & 1/2/3 digit year entry

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	* This semantic gives browsers the opportunity to present a "year" picker control that is styled in appearance consistently with other datetime inputs (rather than just a number input)		* This semantic gives browsers the opportunity to present a "year" picker control that is styled in appearance consistently with other datetime inputs (rather than just a number input)
	* This semantic gives robots the opportunity to understand that a form takes time based information rather than just a number (if for example robots perform time based form submissions/searches on our behalf at some point)		* This semantic gives robots the opportunity to understand that a form takes time based information rather than just a number (if for example robots perform time based form submissions/searches on our behalf at some point)
	* Years can also be more of fewer than four digits. Julius Caesar was born in 100		* Years can also be more of fewer than four digits. Julius Caesar was born in 100 BC, for instance, while Manius Acilius Glabrio was consul in 91 AD.
	BC, for instance, while Manius Acilius Glabrio was consul in 91 AD.		** Sites requiring BC and/ or 1/2/3 figure year entry: [http://www.mayabelize.ca/maya/maya-long-count-generator.shtml], [http://www.smart.net/~mmontes/ec-cal.html], [http://www.guernsey.net/~sgibbs/roman.html]

	==== how does year provide additional validation ====		==== how does year provide additional validation ====

Tantek: /* new datetime input use-cases */ add a few input type="year" use cases from the mailing list

2010-08-09T01:43:14Z

new datetime input use-cases: add a few input type="year" use cases from the mailing list

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	=== new datetime input use-cases ===		=== new datetime input use-cases ===
	* year - see the [[Time_element#year_only\|time element year only use cases]]		* year - see the [[Time_element#year_only\|time element year only use cases]]
			** pull-down for Wikipedia which lets you choose the year or period
			** a charting application which looks at trends in history
	* month-day - see [[Time_element#month_day_only\|time element month day only use cases]]		* month-day - see [[Time_element#month_day_only\|time element month day only use cases]]
	** inputting a birthday without birth year		** inputting a birthday without birth year